Re: Muslim vs. White Nationalist DEBATE

Posted by fschmidt on
URL: http://mikraite.155.s1.nabble.com/Muslim-vs-White-Nationalist-DEBATE-tp3135p3140.html

OmegaKV wrote

I think what he was referring to by liberty was solely individual liberty, which is how the modern West sees liberty. It is not good to place too high a value on this because it can for example interfere with group level liberty. The individual liberty to dress like a slut interferes with the society's liberty to be a modest society.

He specifically criticized the Enlightenment which was a period of sane individual liberty (freedom but not to harm others) and was very conservative.  In other words, what he wants is an authoritarian cesspool.  This kind of thinking helps explain why modern Muslim societies are so pathetic.

If whites caused the mess then they are to blame. That doesn't necessarily mean they ought to be punished for it, but something about the way they were must have been to blame if they were the ones who created liberalism. I suppose Eastern European whites weren't to blame, but I think when he said white he probably meant only anglo Saxon whites.

Only cultures and religions can be blamed.  If he blamed English culture, I would disagree but at least that isn't an un-Islamic position.  He seems to understand neither history nor his own religion.